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  • vor 7 Monate

    FM The_Jagermeister

    I have studied the Budapest for quite a while and I really think that it's really sound (even GM Avrukh in his book on 1.d4 agrees that it's difficult to get advantage with white and the line he gives is not convincing). About the 4.e3 (?!) line if you analyse a bit deeper you will soon see that only white can get in trouble (for example 4...Nxe5 5.Nh3 d6 6.Nf4 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Be2 O-O 9.O-O Nbd7 and the computer already slightly like black, who have a good East-indian defence version). About 4.Bf4 I really think that the safe Nc6 5.Nf3 Bb4+ offers very good chances to equalise

  • vor 7 Monate

    MetalRatel

    @flatseven 3.e3 exd4 4.exd4 d5 is a transposition to an Exchange French if you like that sort of thing. :)

    It's not bad, but very unambitious as the Budapest is borderline unsound.

  • vor 7 Monate

    flatseven

    Okay, I'm asking.  What happens if he doesn't accept it?  say, e3 instead...?

  • vor 7 Monate

    MetalRatel

    Budapest Gambit: the haymaker of chess openings

    Attempting to emulate Jobava (or Simon Williams!) is maybe not the wisest idea for most players (master or beginner). It takes a lot of guts to make 3...Ng4 and 4...g5 work in practice. (The moves even look like a wild swinging arm motion.) The plan 10.h5 followed by Bh4 (a move earlier than the improvement suggested in the video) is also Bronznik's recommendation for White. Of course, hindsight is 20/20 and that's why these openings work when Black is crafty with the right timing for such a surprise.

    One interesting moment (9:00) in the video:

    9.hxg5 Nxc4 may be OK for Black, but 9.Nc3 Nxc4? is not. 9...g4 in the game is superior, but it is interesting to see why this does not work.

  • vor 9 Monate

    marsiozo

    Very pleasant to watch and listen to!

  • vor 9 Monate

    prrcc

    Good game and super presentation in a beautiful english. Thanks very much

  • vor 9 Monate

    JohnSutcliffe

    What I don't like about this line for black is since most of the lines inside the obvious variations are forced, the white player can learn how to get a solid advantage very quickly with an engine. So if you don't use it as a surprise your opponent can prepare like a super GM against you.

  • vor 9 Monate

    DrDeal

    Very instructive, appreciate it

  • vor 9 Monate

    mattchess

    Great video!  Looking forward to more from GM Williams.

  • vor 9 Monate

    FM NFork

    People please try to search the information about this Budapest gambit on your own. If you have database or games of good players check the results. The results are crushing. White has some ways to get slight advantage and get twice as much as wins that black. For example even 3...Ng4 4.e3!? is enough: 4...Nxe4 5.Nh3

    And from the mainline: 3...Ng4 4.Bf4 Nc6 5.Nf3 Bb4 6.Nc3 Qe7 7.Qd5 Bxc3 8.bxc3 f6 9.exf6 Nxf6 10.Qd3 again white has won 2 times more than black.

    Saying Budapest gambit is great is just saying something people want to hear. There is a huge risk playing this as black against opponents who have rating something like above 2000. If some GM plays Budapest sometimes it doesn't prove anything, because that would mean all openings are good. They try everything once in a while.

  • vor 9 Monate

    dzindzifan

    Thank you!! This opening is so fun to play.  It's simple and fun.  If Jobava is playing it, take note!  This GM Simon Williams rocks and kudos for calling Jobava a drunken machine gun ... no British understatement there, mate!

  • vor 9 Monate

    flatseven

    Thanks!  This video was brilliant and easy to follow.  Fits in with Danny Rensche's pawn structure 101 series on the Slav, really, as he was always advocating either an e5 or c5 push for black.   

  • vor 9 Monate

    Alpenschach

    @ theGnosticBuddhist and others who where pondering the 3.d5 lines:

    I can not give you a complete overview over the theory of the Budapest Gambit Declined, because I lack the knowledge and time.

    But let me show you a nice little opening trap, or rather a common opening mistake, that happens frequently in amateur games in this line.

    Of course, White does not have to make that mistake, but I have seen it happen lots of times especially in Blitz.

    Just one example to show you that Black can get a very good game in the Budapest Gambit Declined.

  • vor 9 Monate

    ChristopherSaindon

    Drunken machine gun Cool

  • vor 9 Monate

    gianfry263

    Thanks GM Simon Williams.. I much appreciate your lessons.. I also have your DVD Killer Dutch and Killer Dragon (1 & 2).. I hope you will continue with many lessons here on Chess.com!

  • vor 9 Monate

    theGnosticBuddhist

    What happens if white declines the gambit by playing d5 after e5???

    It looks as if white is better... O.o

     

    Bc5 is a strong response.  I think black is better here.

  • vor 9 Monate

    B0B808

    Great game!

  • vor 9 Monate

    Justice96

    3. d5 is very unambitious. Black can often give white doubled c-pawns (via Bb4+ Nc3 Bxc3 bxc3), and establish excellent control over e4. It's like an improved variation of the Sämisch Nimzo Indian where black doesn't have a knight on f6 that white can pin with Bg5.

  • vor 9 Monate

    baddogno

    Too crazy for me, but nicely presented.  Here's the explorer stats after d5.

    2,749
    45.4% 26.8% 27.7%
    3...Bc5 26
    23.1% 11.5% 65.4%
    3...Bb4 8
    50% 12.5% 37.5%
    3...d6 6
      33.3% 66.7%
    3...c6 5
    60%   40%
    3...b5 1  Fuchs Heinz (GER) - Fohler Claus (GER) (1987.??.??)
    3...g6 1  Bosboom Manuel (NED) - Nijboer Friso (NED) (2002.??.??)

     

  • vor 9 Monate

    EN-johnpeter101

    What happens if white declines the gambit by playing d5 after e5???

    It looks as if white is better... O.o

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